Plumbing a sump

[necigrad]

Now that I've got a new stand my next project will be to set up a sump. Here's the question. I've got an overflow to come out of the aquapod. Part of the sump system will be a chiller (even if it's unnecessary). What's the best way to bring the water back to the tank? Should I just use something like a Maxijet, or do I want to use something with more oompf? In sump or in line?

[Troylee]

i would use like a mag 5 because of the head pressure and feed the chiller with it .... with it all said and done you would prolly get around300 to 350 gph...hth ;)

[spslover]

just curious but say if he had the chiller on it's own pump and the rest on another pump. What size pump can he use then?

reason I ask is I have separate pumps on my chiller and return and was thinking if I could split it to one pump? To save room. Sorry to steal your thread. Just curious sorry.

[necigrad]

No problems with the "steal". My "plan" is to go from the sump to the chiller to the display. Part of the problem is that I don't understand all th emechanics involved. Understanding how flow X out of the display and flow Y in TO the display match prefectly boggles my mind.

[Troylee]

thats simple!!!!!! it only comes out of the display as fast as it returns......if your pump pushes 300 gph thats all thats gonna come out..... unless running a single full sphion that would pull 2000gph and flood the sump..... with the overflow box you have dan i would make a single durso pipe with the hole on top about 3/16th" and your set to go.....

[Troylee]

just curious but say if he had the chiller on it's own pump and the rest on another pump. What size pump can he use then?

reason I ask is I have separate pumps on my chiller and return and was thinking if I could split it to one pump? To save room. Sorry to steal your thread. Just curious sorry.
depends on what size tank and what size pump you have....how much you want to turn over etc..... what you got snoop???

[necigrad]

So basically overflow to sump to chiller to return pump, and the return pump should be no faster then the overflow? That is simple.

[sakeating]

you could add a ball valve on the outflow if you had a larger pump lying around, but that would ultimately use more electricity. A ball valve might be a good thing to have just in case the pump is faster than your drain.

[sakeating]

you can buy ball valves with hose barb if you are using some sort of flexible line, or you can buy the pvc type as well. Make sure that you either install a backflow preventer valve, or make sure there is enough room in the sump to handle whatever drainage there might be in the event of a power failure.

[necigrad]

So besides the Mag 5, are there any other suggestions? Any brand to stay away from?

Now back to playing Tetris with LR. I suck at this.

[chrishei]

you can buy ball valves with hose barb if you are using some sort of flexible line, or you can buy the pvc type as well. Make sure that you either install a backflow preventer valve, or make sure there is enough room in the sump to handle whatever drainage there might be in the event of a power failure.

I also recommend this. I setup everything and cut off the power and wait for everything to stop draining. Once I get this point I add water to about 1 - 2 inches of overflowing then turn on the system and let it level out and mark it as a max level to fill while the system is running.

[chrishei]

No problems with the "steal". My "plan" is to go from the sump to the chiller to the display. Part of the problem is that I don't understand all th emechanics involved. Understanding how flow X out of the display and flow Y in TO the display match prefectly boggles my mind.

and always add valves so you can play around with it. Did my chiller the same way.

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[lvsuckerfish]

either a mag 5 or a enhiem 1260 I believe is like 600ghp with head probly around 400-500 with going through the chiller I would actually get a smaller enhiem I love those pumps work horse of a pump

[chuckdee]

I'm not sure what kind of chiller you are using, but you need to be within the chiller's recommended GPH. I use a 1/15HP chiller on my Aquapod, and have a Maxi-Jet 1200 as my return that goes through the chiller on its way up, and it works very well.. I'm at the low end of the recommended GPH. My Overflow is made out of 1 inch PVC up top then gets reduced to 1/2 inch about half way down.

Many things you have to consider here.

I once used a Mag drive, and I would never go back because they put out too much heat.. Chiller ran too much, until I "down graded" to the Maxi-Jet..

You know what else you can do which is pretty tricked out is run the chiller inline with your return and just use a small pump for the return. This way you don't have to worry about the extra pressure needed to pump through a chiller and up to the display..... Just let gravity do the work for you..

I wish I would have gone that route back inthe day.... Maybe it could be my next new project... GOOD LUCK Necigrad!!!

[necigrad]

I use a 1/15HP chiller on my Aqua pod, and have a Maxi-Jet 1200 as my return that goes through the chiller on its way up, and it works very well.


That's actually the "plan". I was using a MJ1200 before, now I'm going to be adding the sump so there's a bit more planning. I decided to chance a Quiet One pump, the 600GPH one. We'll see how that goes whenever I get around to getting the sump.

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