reefer blues...

[rvalen]

uggg,,my rodi went to ****,,,my tank developed red slime, last week i lost a fish,,and now it seems like after i used chemiclean that my fish are getting stressed,,,i checked levels and amonia is slightly up,,im assumming because i shut skimmer off.. IDk, on top of it all i did add a fish 2weeks ago that i did not quarentine and has developed ick,,, i noticed two spots on my clown and 3 on my black shoulder,,,,everytime i move a fish out my tank i kill it thats why i did away with my qt tank,,,i have 24hrs to go before i can do a big water change and get my skimmer on,,hopefully everything dont go to **** in the mean time....im not panicking as usual im just gona knock these problems down one at a time and hopefully i will be ok.. should i do a fw dip on these guys and keep em in main since ick is already present so just leave em,,,these fish are eating well still and i dont want to lose em..

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[VegasFish]

I wouldn't dip the fish since they'll just be going back into a tank with ick. If you have 1 or 2 that are particularly invested you can dip, quarantine, and bring back to health before re-exposing to main tank. What are the ammonia levels and why cant you do a water change? That's what I'd be most worried about - the stress to the fish and making sure the ammonia doesn't go further up.

[tomgl]

I agree with the above post. I have two other things you could consider. First if I recall this is not the first time you have talked about ick. To add to the suggestion of removing the severely infested fish you can go a step further and remove all the fish to a hospital tank and treat them and leave the display tank fallow (fish free) for eight weeks. The parasites life span is less and this will give any unborn time to hatch and die. They can not survive without a host for this time period. This would also be a cheaper alternative to medicating a tank as big as yours. I got this advice from Bob Fenner years ago when I was starting out and I thought this was crazy. I went through with it and after the fish were ick free and the tank was ick free, eight weeks later reintroduced my fish back to the tank and I have never had ick in the main tank again. I quarantine all new fish now for eight weeks and I'm always happy when I'm a week in and spot a spot on the fish I missed when I got it home.

Second suggestion is maybe you should have someone look at your tank to see why your having red slime. I don't know enough about large tank equipment to know if you have the right stuff. It might be worth the fee to bring in someone in who maintains large aquariums. PM me is you need a suggestion on who.

[bigronbo]

rvalen, If you have ich then it is already there. unless you can quarentene i'd just let that ride. did you add an airstone when tou shut off the skimmer? most red slime treatments say to add air, that may be stressing some but with amonia thats the worst stresor along with hign nitrates. I would do a 20% change in water. Wait a few days so as to not take your bio load down too much at one time. after 3-4 days if amonia isn't gone do another 20% change. Don't worry about the red slime untill the amonia and nitrates are under control. then you can treat again for the red slime. with the water changes you may even improve the ich by taking out some of the parisites.

[bigronbo]

one thing to mention to help some though is to use a bastor to blast the red slime before you such the water out and get it suspended into the water and try to suck as much of it out as you can when you do the water change.

[rvalen]

i did a 50g wate change today,, however i did check tds on some rodi water i had left and it was 304 ,,,,,, this was a ****py piece of junk i got stuck with after buying from a professional buisness,,, any how the last few batches i never checked tds so im thinking that the water i thought was good was not,,,gosh im go glad my son broke it i had problem with that rodi from the start...maybe thats where the cyano came from
my nitrates have always been an issue it did start getting better,,, yeah i need to get a rodi asap,,,to bad i wasted 150 on this junk,,,,maybe santa claus will bring me one HAHA i wish...thank you guys for replying i started to get really down last night,, i ended up turning off light going to bed and waking up this morning in positive attitude,, and this time im gona get a nice looking qt tank since it will be like a piece of furniture...

[newtonja2]

I have a great ro system with inline tds meter and booster pump I want 150

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[rvalen]

I have a great ro system with inline tds meter and booster pump I want 150

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i just pmd u

is it a ro or rodi ???

[rvalen]

so i went and looked at my black shoulder and the specks of ick are gone,,,the clown still has 2 on his fins maybe it will pass ( i owe it to mesafire to keep this lil guy happy and healthy) they are still active and eating well

[five O]

Pick up a cleaner wrasse and maybe a cleaner shrimp. They can only help.

[Xcali1985]

****, im dealing with slight red slime also, I figured it was from me breaking down 1/2 my reef and stirring up the nastiness. I now need to look at my RODI unit.

[five O]

If your TDS is 304, that would deff be the root of your cyano problem.

[rvalen]

If your TDS is 304, that would deff be the root of your cyano problem.

yeah remember the mess i had to deal with because of this unit,,,,i tossed that sucker in the trash earlier..lolol

[rvalen]

Pick up a cleaner wrasse and maybe a cleaner shrimp. They can only help.

i have 1 cleaner shrimp,,,,, i will check on a cleaner wrasse,,,, wont it get ick??

[rvalen]

so tonight i rescued two rose ???? goldfishes,,(somekind of gold fishes)

my friends daughter didnt want em and was gona flush em because they were ugly,,the crazy thing is 2wks ago i remember her telling me about these fish,,, her tank was a plastic tupperware 5inc by 3inch with a cple pebbles fr outside,, thats it nothing else (i gave her some of my fish food to feed em)
after all that these lil guys looked good still and eating,,lolol WTF my fish r spoiled rotten and im going thru this lolol ... anyway i couldnt let here flush em they went thru 2 wks of no filtration or water change and made it WOW,,, i dnt have a tank. i did remember a neighbor having a tank so i gave em to her
talk about hardy fish

[Xcali1985]

The natural diet of a cleaner shrimp are parasites such as ICK. The fish know this and most will allow the shrimp and wrasse to clean them. The shrimp will set up a station for the fish to stop by for a cleaning. The wrasse will clean whenever it encounters a fish that will let him.

Most people suggest against keeping a wrasse in a non-sick tank as they are hard to feed outside of their natural diet. Also they have a near identical wrasse that is not so nice to inverts. A true cleaner wrasse is a benefit to a sick tank IMHO.

I would look for a wrasse that has some size to it. It will be hungry and hopefully greedy.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eECjGFc3sec

[Xcali1985]

I wonder how effective one of these guys would be in a Hospital tank setup? Can one cleaner wrasse eliminate ICK? I hardly ever hear people mention using them in treatment aspects. Hmmm. How about 2 cleaners? so they clean each other too? Will they fight? Im pretty sure he can get ick also.

[rvalen]

cleaner wrasse is on my list.....all my fish go to cleaner shrimp,,i havent seen clown go to her at all...

thx for the video thats awsome

[Man From Atlantis]

How i got rid of the red slime, was first adding another power head which cleaned 90% up it up and then i did add the chemical remover to finish it off, since then i have never had it come back :). Ick is a pain in the butt, as before what the others said and that quarantine is essential, I added a hippo tang, it got ick and passed it on to all the fish in my tank, total disaster, all tangs I would 100% quarantine.

[rvalen]

the red slime is gone,,,,Im in the process of getting another rodi unit,,this should/hopefully take care of that problem...as far as the ick im gonna ride it out and just moniter my fish,,,feed them vitamins and keep them eating i hope it passes...

[Man From Atlantis]

sounds a plan, keep the fish fed well and it may pass, hope all goes away for you.

[rvalen]

sounds a plan, keep the fish fed well and it may pass, hope all goes away for you.

thx very much i appreciate that..

[five O]

I'm telling you, a good cleaner wrasse will help keep ick under control. They are pretty cheap as well. I lucked out, because my cleaner wrasse & shrimp will eat parasites and commerical fish foods. They are to be used in addition to a good QT tank.

[rvalen]

UPDATE,,,

ammonia = 0
nitrite = 0
nitrate = 10
ph= 8.4
calcium 420

red slime is gone

black shoulder shows no signs of ick
clown has 1 dot
all other fish have no signs of ick or stress
i have to just pick up rodi unit thursday and hopefully all will be back to normal

so wow my levels are always the same and once i shut skimmer off to do chemiclean treatment my ammonia went up...how do some people do it not using a skimmer,,,,i have to admit i do overfeed everyday,,,
i will be purchasing a cleaner wrasse has anyone seen a nice sized one anywhere???

its funny how anyone can view the tank and the fish just chill
as soon as i walk up they all gather like im gonna feed em lolol i always give in

[rvalen]

yay finally 0 TDS,, thx newtonja2
for the rodi

[five O]

yay finally 0 TDS,, thx newtonja2
for the rodi

That will make life a little easier now.

[rvalen]

all fish are clear of ick and everything is good for now....